Ask a simple question, get a simple answer.

Yeesh... I wonder where I got this idea from 

Anyways. I figured this is a needed topic as these types really do tend to be useful. This topic is of course not for talking endlessly about the rules its for asking quick and simple questions such as "What is charging", and answering just as briefly "Charging is rushing at an enemy to make a melee basic attack or bull rush. During charging you move your speed as part of the action then make a melee basic attack or bull rush the enemy with a +1 to attacks. You also must move at least 2 squares in order to charge and you cannot charge through difficult terrain." 

Remember to be to the point when your either asking or answering.

If they want a deeper discussion then of course they can start another thread and go in detail.


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This is kind of embarrassing...but I've never actually understood how dual wielding (swords, axes, etc) works if you don't have any sort of proficiency feat for dual wielding.

CHIA wrote:

This is kind of embarrassing...but I've never actually understood how dual wielding (swords, axes, etc) works if you don't have any sort of proficiency feat for dual wielding.

This is an old 3.X thing more or less. 4e didn't have a need for proficiency to dual wield. You don't even need to be proficient with a weapon to wield any weapons in 4e, just to get the bonus.

To answer your question, you can only dual wield a weapon in your off hand that has the off hand weapon property. Past that, no requirements. Some classes (like Ranger) can let you wield non off hand weapons in your off hand normally, but they are the exception to the rule. Dual wielding is a bit more gimmicky in 4e than anything else. Only certain classes/builds can use it effectively for it to be more than just holding a weapon in your off hand, so it's kinda something that only sees play for certain advantages, such as using multiple magic item properties at the same time.

Hope this helps. Happy Gaming :)

ToeSama wrote:

CHIA wrote:

This is kind of embarrassing...but I've never actually understood how dual wielding (swords, axes, etc) works if you don't have any sort of proficiency feat for dual wielding.

This is an old 3.X thing more or less. 4e didn't have a need for proficiency to dual wield. You don't even need to be proficient with a weapon to wield any weapons in 4e, just to get the bonus.

To answer your question, you can only dual wield a weapon in your off hand that has the off hand weapon property. Past that, no requirements. Some classes (like Ranger) can let you wield non off hand weapons in your off hand normally, but they are the exception to the rule. Dual wielding is a bit more gimmicky in 4e than anything else. Only certain classes/builds can use it effectively for it to be more than just holding a weapon in your off hand, so it's kinda something that only sees play for certain advantages, such as using multiple magic item properties at the same time.

Hope this helps. Happy Gaming

Thankee much!  

What happens when PC's lose all their healing surges and suffer an effect that would make them lose one?

Felorn Gloryaxe wrote:

What happens when PC's lose all their healing surges and suffer an effect that would make them lose one?

Normally the effect itself says what to do there. Most effects like this say to lose hit points equal to surge value. I don't think there's an actual rule in any of the books about it though. Only checked the Rules Compendium, so if someone else knows, feel free to correct me.

ToeSama wrote:

Felorn Gloryaxe wrote:

What happens when PC's lose all their healing surges and suffer an effect that would make them lose one?

Normally the effect itself says what to do there. Most effects like this say to lose hit points equal to surge value. I don't think there's an actual rule in any of the books about it though. Only checked the Rules Compendium, so if someone else knows, feel free to correct me.

I figured it might be that they take damage equal to their level... Hmmm.... There has to be an official rule somewhere.

There isn't a general rule. If the power or effect doesn't specify, then nothing happens.

That's weird. I think I might Houserule it to cause damage equal to your level.

I discovered the answer for this, but the question was about the Monster Vault dragons' traits that had the "on an initiative of 10 + its initiative check", the dragon does X.

It means that the dragon gets to act twice a round; once at its initiative check, and once earlier in the round (its initiative check + 10).

So, Ace, Buck, Cleo, and Duke come upon a dragon, and roll initiative.  They roll 22, 14, 17, 24, and 15 respectively.  The round proceeds thus:

Dragon acts first, and does its instinctive power
Then Duke
Then Ace
Then  Cleo
Then Dragon again
Then Buck.

The Stormheart feature of the Warden says "When you use your second wind, you slide each enemy marked by you and within 2 squares of you 1 square, and each enemy marked by you is slowed until the end of your next turn."

So, do I slide each enemy marked by me, in addition to each enemy within 2 squares of me?

Or do I slide each enemy marked by me that are within 2 squares of me?

Does the DC for stabilizing the dying (DC 15) stay the same throughout all the tiers? Or does it go up?

Anyone know the major difference between your normal Fly speed, and Overland Flight speed? My buddies I play with says Overland Flight speed can only be used over land and not over water... Which of course makes little to no sense. So does anyone know what exactly Overland Flight is used for?

Overland Speed has to do with travel rules. It doesn't need to just be used "over land", but it's not the same as a "Fly speed" either.

For instance, an Ancient Red Dragon says it has a Fly speed of 12, and an Overland Flight Speed of 15. In an encounter and during basic exploration, it would use it's Fly Speed. For the details of overland travel, it would use it's Overland Flight speed to determine how far it got within a full day of travel. It can't use it's Overland Flight speed towards anything other than this.

Overland Travel was sort of nixed from monsters since travel rules were clunky and most of the time it was hand waved completely even on the PCs side, so Overland Flight doesn't really have any pertinent use in actual play unless a group of PCs uses the travel rules and somehow gets their hands on it.

Hope this helps. Happy Gaming

An even shorter way of saying it would be that overland flight is the creature's non-combat cruising speed while doing a double-move with its normal flight speed is its all out top speed.

Well, that doesn't really paint the picture in its entirety.

Then again, considering I've just read that you actually CAN use Overland Flight during an encounter, I guess mine doesn't either XD

Monster Manual 2 wrote:

Overland flight works like a fly speed with one exception: A creature can take a move action to use overland flight only if it has taken no actions that turn, except free actions or move actions using overland flight. The creature can then take only those actions until the start of its next turn. See also fly speed.

So... yea... 30 squares with double move actions mid combat... No wonder they removed it as a movement mode post MM2 XD

ToeSama wrote:

The Stormheart feature of the Warden says "When you use your second wind, you slide each enemy marked by you and within 2 squares of you 1 square, and each enemy marked by you is slowed until the end of your next turn."

So, do I slide each enemy marked by me, in addition to each enemy within 2 squares of me?

Or do I slide each enemy marked by me that are within 2 squares of me?

The way I'm reading it, you can only slide enemies that are both marked by you and within 2 squares of you. The rest of the power seems to slow ANY enemy marked by you, regardless of how far away they are.

Felorn Gloryaxe wrote:

Does the DC for stabilizing the dying (DC 15) stay the same throughout all the tiers? Or does it go up?

I believe it stays the same throughout. The idea is that in Heroic Tier, it is a bit of a challenge to stabilize someone that is dying. In Paragon Tier it is almost an automatic success. In Epic Tier, if you resort to stabilizing instead of just using a power to heal someone, then it shouldn't be a challenge at all.

My compendium has apparently mis-mapped the "heal" entry for a skill to the "fire" entry for damage type... Gotta see if I can fix that...

I've got one that has come up quite often in my new 4E campaign

Can forced movement break a grapple if the 2 creatures end up out of each other's reach?

i.e. a Choker is grappling PC 1 PC2 uses a power to slide PC 1 1 (or more) squares away from the Choker so they are no longer in base to base contact and out of each others reach. Is the grapple broken by this?

Thanks! Great idea for a thread btw.

Holy Bovine wrote:

Can forced movement break a grapple if the 2 creatures end up out of each other's reach?

Yes. It's actually a highly utilized tactic to keep in ones pockets in case of grabby enemies/players.

ToeSama wrote:

Holy Bovine wrote:

Can forced movement break a grapple if the 2 creatures end up out of each other's reach?

Yes. It's actually a highly utilized tactic to keep in ones pockets in case of grabby enemies/players.

Thank you for your response! Is there a page/book reference for this?

Holy Bovine wrote:

ToeSama wrote:

Holy Bovine wrote:

Can forced movement break a grapple if the 2 creatures end up out of each other's reach?

Yes. It's actually a highly utilized tactic to keep in ones pockets in case of grabby enemies/players.

Thank you for your response! Is there a page/book reference for this?

Effects that End a Grab: If you are affected by a condition that prevents you from taking opportunity actions (such as dazed, stunned, surprised, or unconscious), you immediately let go of a grabbed enemy. If you move away from the creature you’re grabbing, you let go and the grab ends. If a pull, a push, or a slide moves you or the creature you’re grabbing out of your reach, the grab ends.

(Published in Player's Handbook, page(s) 290, Player's Handbook 3, page(s) 220, Rules Compendium, page(s) 243.)

If bob the gnomish wizard is hidden, and he uses magic missile, what happens?
Does he stay hidden, since he didn't make an attack roll?
Or is he not longer hidden, since magic missile counts as an attack?

If he uses thunderwave, a blast, is he not longer hidden after he makes the first attack roll or does he stay hidden until all attack rolls have been made?

If he uses unravelling dart, a double attack, would he stay hidden until he has made all attacks, gaining combat advantage for all of them or would he become visible after the first?

Last question: If a warlord is hidden and uses Direct the Strike, is he still hidden?

itaav wrote:

If bob the gnomish wizard is hidden, and he uses magic missile, what happens?
Does he stay hidden, since he didn't make an attack roll?
Or is he not longer hidden, since magic missile counts as an attack?

Bob is revealed, as Magic Missile is still an attack. Attack rolls do not need to be made, only for an attack to be used. Also applies to the Direct the Strike question.

itaav wrote:

If he uses thunderwave, a blast, is he not longer hidden after he makes the first attack roll or does he stay hidden until all attack rolls have been made?

Hidden until all attack rolls are made. Same for any attack power that makes multiple simultaneous attack rolls, such as Unraveling Dart.

Okay, so when a monk is hidden, and uses a movement technique, he is not hidden anymore, since the movement technique is technically an attack?